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E) What we propose for those that are saying Jesus yes, church no.

Let's look at alternative ways to have church, instead of gathering together
in expensive buildings, propping up costly programs, and giving our money
to visitors.
It doesn't make sense anymore, to have a church with a hundred, a thousand,
or a mega church of thousands, where you have to pay someone to come and
give a word.
When Jesus says, that when two or three are gathered in my name there I am
in the midst of thee, and what, the Spirit of God doesn't have anything to share?

Or, that where there is a hundred, even a thousand or more believers,  
that body of believers needs someone to come and give a word.
How spiritually defunct and passive are we, that there are no ministry gifts among us?
That we need to bring in a guest speaker?
That's what being in the box does, do to it's format, it silences you.
Outside of the box you're free to speak and operate in your gifting.
Growing through using and operating in those gifts.  

The bible says,
  How is it then, brethern? When ye come together,
everyone of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation,
hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
( I Corinthians 14:26.)

How about a church based on this idea.
We come together as friends and family, in our homes, or our places of business,
sharing a common belief that Jesus Christ is Lord.
We all share a word, a meal and fellowship.
Inviting others into the fellowship of believers through righteousness.
For the bible says,
 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure,
having this seal, God knows those that are his, and let everyone that names
the name of Christ
depart from evil.   (II Timothy 2:19.)

F) Things aren't going to change until we teach people to be the church
instead of trying to convince them to come to church.

How about a church that has a heart of giving? along with the maturing.
That we give and teach others to give out of the abundance of what we have,
not under obligation, but out of love.
How about instead of making a few rich, we take up collections and give it to
America's Second Harvest or some local food distribution center that helps the poor.
Of which women with children in need are greatly benefited.
All the church giving collectively nationally, locally, and personally hands
on ministry to someone you've heard is in need.
This is the only religion that God sees.
He says so in
(James 1:27) Pure religion and undefiled before God and
the Father is this, To visit the fatherless (orphans) and widows in their affliction,
and to
keep himself unspotted from the world.

But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into
the world and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing,
we will be content with that.   (
I Timothy 6:6-8)

Jesus says in Matthew, to not store up for yourselves treasures on earth
but rather store up treasures in heaven, for where your treasure is,
there your heart will be also.
(Matthew 6:19-21)
It kind of goes against the grain to those that preach prosperity when
Jesus says to the rich
,  If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions
and give to the poor, and you will have treasures in heaven.
Then come follow me.
 (Matthew 19:21)

You see the prosperity message is prosperous to those that preach it.

If you can become rich in this life, honestly and legitimately, do it.

But remember Gods word says,  
Command those who are rich in this
present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth,
which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides
us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be
rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way
they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age,
so they may take hold of the life that is life.    (
I Timothy 6:17-19)

He who is kind to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will reward him
for what he has done. (
Proverbs 19:17)

But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame,
the blind: And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee;
for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.
 Luke 14:13-14

With verses like these I'm thinking you'll probably get a better return
on your money if you do as the Lord asks.
Besides everybody knows this verse where Jesus says,
"It is more blessed to give than receive."
(Acts 20:32-35)

G)
This site is to show you how to Love God by loving his people.

Jesus said,  You love me if you keep my commandments.  John 14:15

The two greatest commandments were to  Love the Lord your God
with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.
This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it:
Love your neighbor as yourself.  All the Law and the Prophets hang
on these two commandments.
 (Matthew 22:37-40)

When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels
with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before
him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from
another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come,
ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you
from the foundation of the world: For I was hungered, and ye gave
me meat: I was thirsty and you gave me drink: I was a stranger and
ye took me in: Naked and you clothed me: I was sick, and you visited me:
I was in prison, and you came unto me.

Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we
thee an hungered, and thirsty, and gave thee drink?

When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you,
Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethern,
ye have done it unto me.   
(Matthew 25:31-40)

Love your neighbor as yourself.   Love does no harm to his neighbor.
Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. (
Romans 13:10)


H) This site is about the church that asks you, check yourself, to
see that you are in the faith.

Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves.
Do you not realize that Jesus Christ is in you---unless of course you
fail the test?
And I trust that you will discover that we have not failed the test.
Now we pray to God  
that you will not do anything wrong.      (2 Corinthians 13:5-7)

In the church of religion today, many believe and rely on the belief that
all sin is forgiven.  
That somehow if they continue to practice sin that the grace of God is sufficient.
Once saved always saved has become the mantra of the day.
That there is no penalty for sin after our so called conversion.
That the blood of Jesus cleanses them from all unrighteousness,
thus the grace of God is sufficient. Yes, and No.
None of us are without sin my friends, but when people see equal measures
of the world in the church as they do in the world some thing is wrong.
It's the wrong use of the word grace, to think you can continue to sin.
 

What shall we say then? Shall we continue to sin, that grace may abound?
God Forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?  (
Romans 6:1-2)

The definitions of grace are:
a)  
The freely given, unmerited favor and love of God.
b)  the influence or Spirit of God operating in humans to regenerate or strengthen them.
c)   a virtue or excellence of divine origin.
d)  moral strength or grace to perform a duty.

My definition of Grace thats easy to remember is, G-ods ability to run his race.
Gods grace gives you the ability to grow, the ability to walk in the spirit,
the ability to keep his commandments.
Those operating under a false assumption aren't walking under grace,
they're walking under his
mercy.  Mercy: The compassionate or kindly
forbearance shown toward an
offender, an enemy, or other person in ones power.

There was a time when God had to endure the ignorance of men and their sinful acts.
But since Christ, Paul says,   
In the past God overlooked such ignorance,
but now he commands all people everywhere
to repent.  (Acts 17:30)

"And do this, understanding the present time. The hour has come
for you to wake up from your slumber, because our salvation is nearer
now than when we first believed. The night is nearly over; the day is almost here.
So let us put aside the deeds of darkness and put on  the armor of light.
Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness,
not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy.
Rather, clothe yourself with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about
how to gratify the desires of the sinful flesh."
(
Romans 13:11-14 )

Therefore, brothers, we have an
obligation -- but it is not to the sinful nature,
to live according to it. For if you live according to the sinful nature,
you will die;
but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live,
because those that are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. (
Romans 8:12-14)

Because of religion, many are going to miss the mark, because they don't
realize that being a Christian is not just a noun, but a verb.  

In the judgement some are going to say Lord, "We know we were weak and
did wrong but we believed in you and in your grace."

This is what I imagine the Lord saying, "By your own words you have said,
and it is true, My grace is sufficient. How is it then that you never used my grace,
my power, my ability, to turn from the deeds of the flesh?  

Lord, Lord please forgive us, we are weak and sinful men!

Again the Lord replies, "By your own admission you are sinful  and ungodly men."

Lord, we may be sinful, but ungodly no. How can we be ungodly when we believe in you?

The Lord, "To believe in me is one thing, to obey me is another.
Have you never read, or not heard, this saying,
If you love me, keep my commandments?  (John 14:15)

"How can you say we did not love you  Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name?
and in thy name cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

Then the Lord will profess unto them,  I never knew you: depart from me,
ye that work
iniquity. (Matthew 7:21-23)

Friends, most of the above conversation is not all scripture. Its an illustration
to make a point. Where the scripture makes it all to clear.
This is what religion does to men.
 Even so ye also outwardly appear
righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and
iniquity.
(Matthew 23:28)
If you're not taking in the whole counsel of God and his word, you're putting
your trust in the doctrines of men. I for one wouldn't want to put my trust in
any man, except the man Christ Jesus.

For the time is come that judgement must begin with the house of God:
and if it first begin with us, what shall the end be of them that obey not
the gospel of God?
And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the
ungodly and
the
sinner appear? (I Peter 4:17-18)

True Christianity is not to soothe mens conscience, and ease their guilty minds.
True Christianity is to change mens hearts through repentance and give
them a clear conscience.
The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and
a good conscience and a sincere faith.  (
I Timothy 1:5)  

Christianity is not about talking the talk, its about walking the walk.
Live everyday as if it were your last, as someone who has to give an account.
One day we all will.
(Hebrews 9:27)

I think that I also have the Spirit of God, and with that in mind, my only desire
is to share with you, Truth, for your edification. And guess what?
Freely I have received and freely I give.


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